8 January 2009 37 Comments

Replacing fluorescent lamps with LED T8 lights

Our office currently runs standard fluorescent strip lights (1500mm T8 tubes) throughout, with over 60 bulbs across 3 floors. We are considering upgrading all the lights to LED bulbs, in order to save power and to make them compatible with an office automation system (to turn them on and off automatically).

Energy savings

So, how much energy will they save? Well a standard fluorescent bulb consumes about 58w, whereas the new LED bulbs consume around 20W. Therefore over the course of a year I would anticipate the energy savings to be as follows:

  Standard Fluorescent Bulb LED Bulb
Power Consumption 58 Watts 20 Watts
Hours in use 10 hours per day, 5 days a week, 52 per year
Hours per year 2,600
Kilowatt hours per year (watts / 1000 * hours) 150.80 kWh 52 kWh
Cost per year (at 10p per kWh) £15.08 £5.20

Thus the saving is about £10 per year per bulb.

We are currently asking suppliers to quote us for 60 bulbs, and the prices we have received so far range between £25 to £60 per bulb.

The bulbs are rated for about 50,000 hours of constant usage, which should mean they would last nearly 20 years at the rate of usage we have forecast.

Standard bulbs last about 5,000 hours (2 years) and cost around £2 each.

It looks like the energy saving bulbs should pay for themselves after 3 – 5 years, and return a yield of around 20% thereafter.

Things I haven’t factored in:

  • Cost of installation / replacing bulbs (slighty more difficult to initially install, but they last 10 times as long and therefore need less labour to replace).
  • Reduced heat from operation – might require less air conditioning in summer months)

37 Responses to “Replacing fluorescent lamps with LED T8 lights”

  1. Jake Brumby 8 January 2009 at 4:49 pm #

    That’s a 66% saving. Very good indeed. Have you calculated the cost of installation?

    I was looking at Megaman LED bulbs the other day. The clever feature is that they don’t require new light fittings. They have a wide range of bulbs but they are very expensive and I would want more than 1 year warranty for such a pricey lightbulb. http://www.megamanuk.com/

    Earth LED is another manufacturer to consider: http://www.earthled.com/

    The Metaefficient blog has a view interesting reviews of various bulbs and technologies. Here are two:

    - http://www.metaefficient.com/leds/led-motion-sensing-lights-a-review.html
    - http://www.metaefficient.com/leds/office-building-lit-with-100-led-light.html

  2. Paul Maunders 10 January 2009 at 3:56 pm #

    In terms of installation, I think it’s pretty simple as they fit in the existing strip light fittings. However, do you do need to remove the starter and ballast, so you might need an electrician to help with this.

    I haven’t factored these costs into the equation, but if I did, I think the LED bulbs would probably still come out on top as even though they are a bit trickier to install, you would replace them a lot less often than their fluorescent equivalents… they last around 10 times as long!

    Thanks for those other links, I’ll take a look!

  3. Dale 12 January 2009 at 7:10 am #

    I bought LED lights to replace my halogen MR16 bulbs the other day from a website called Eaglelight.com that I would recommend enthusiastically. They had good service (good phone and email support), great FAQs so I knew what I needed, and competitive prices; also, their shipping was fast and the LEDs were as good as advertised. http://www.Eaglelight.com. Very good online shopping site.

  4. John Ronfell -MD 22 January 2009 at 5:40 am #

    The cost of led fluorescent lamps is high, but over time you can dependant on use save 70% in electrical energy and recover your intial cost over 1-2 years.
    That is without considering, lamp replacement costs, disposal
    HVAC Costs and assist to reduce carbon emissions. You could also see http://www.acousticlighting.co.uk which electronically switch the led fluorescent lamps OFF and ON without damage to the lamps. indcidentally you can have colours of warm white, white, brilliant white. Lamps life 70K Hours with IP65 and IK7 Protection. Hope this helps.

  5. David Bide 28 January 2009 at 4:50 pm #

    Have you found a source for supplying your requirement? Would you be interested in having all lamps controlled by PIR interface, so the lights are only on when people are in the room, building or designated area..

  6. Paul Maunders 28 January 2009 at 6:22 pm #

    We have contacted a few suppliers, and are waiting for some samples to arrive – but we haven’t made a final decision yet.

    Yes, we are planning on controlling them via an office automation system which will also allow us to trigger them via time profiles, as well as PIR sensors etc..

  7. Howard Newman 9 February 2009 at 2:02 pm #

    Is it good or bad to use light motion sensors with t 8 bulbs

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  9. Pete Bailey 11 March 2009 at 11:23 am #

    Hi ,
    We are a UK company called Visual Interactive Ltd based in the Midlands. We have succesfully sold our T8 LED tube products to some large companies in the UK. One of which is looking to role out accross Europe and the US. We spent over 9 months sourcing suitable, quality T8 products to offer our customers. We are electronic engineers by background and have experience in the LED lighting arena. We are happy to get involved with customers and support them with our detailed energy saving spreadheet which based on some simple information will give you the total energy saving and your ROI.
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  10. Alistair Roberton 24 March 2009 at 8:30 pm #

    99% of LED Fluorescent tube replacements require that the ballast be disabled before you insert the tube, ’ if you are confident do carry out this procedure then by all means purchase one of these tubes.

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  12. Pete Bailey 9 April 2009 at 9:33 pm #

    in repose to Alistair’s post, people need to be aware of the ballast issue. A standard magnetic fitting with starter is easy to convert and so the LED lamps will work providing the starter is removed. Note however that by leaving the ballast in place, you won’t get as much energy saving due to the inefficiencies of the ballast. It is a simple task to bypass or remove altogether. If you have an electronic ballast which inveriably doesn’t have a starter, the the LED tubes will not work if its left in the circuit so these will definitely need to be bypassed. If you are planning on using a passive movement sensor then be aware that some may not work properly as most reply on a resisting load with solid state output . The input impedance of an LED tube is pretty high and you may find that if you are powering just a single tube, that it may not work unless you put 2 in.

    If you have any questions about LED tubes, lets share it so we can all help each other.

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  14. Lucy 27 April 2009 at 3:01 pm #

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    which will need quantities of LED luminaires to replace traditional
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    Dear Sir/Madam,

    We are pleased to get to know that you are specialist in the field of LED
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    for LED Lighting product in China, we sincerely hope to establish business
    relations with your esteemed corporation in 2009.

    LED technology is always keep fast pace in recently a few years, it has
    been replacing all traditional lighting devices at present. Our focus is to
    provide clients best LED Lighting solutions.

    Some of our items maybe are suitable for your business: such as LED
    Fluorescent lamps,LED high power spotlight,LED strips,LED rope light,LED
    Module,etc.

    We would like to recommend you our LED fluorescent tube series first.
    Since such items are our leading products, which we sell well recently.
    clients include project company and architectural designers, they have done
    many project, such as supermarket, factory,office,lighting box etc… I
    think there should also have many similar projects ongoing in your area,
    which will need quantities of LED luminaires to replace traditional
    fluorescent to achieve the purpose of energy saving effect and reduced the
    power of consumption. We are full of expectations to help you take up the
    potential market at a short time.

    Please visit our website at http://www.tx-led.com for more details about our full
    range of products, then let me know which models you are interested so that
    we can send you exact information.

    Look forward to discussing further details with you soon. Thanks!

    Best regards,
    Jason Zhou
    Sales manager
    Shenzhen Tianxia LED Lighting Co.,Ltd
    Email:sales@tx-led.com
    Web: http://www.tx-led.com/

    Tel: 0086 755 81920018 Mob: 086-13590170735
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  24. farmergal 14 October 2009 at 8:05 pm #

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  28. Jeff CAi 11 November 2009 at 10:53 am #

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